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Sources:
DeSantis Quote is from Fact Check: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks against Amendment 4 on abortion

Photo Sources:
Trump on Joe Rogan--screenshot via ABC News
Trump Working at McDonald's via ABC News
DeSantis speaking out against Amendment 4-screenshot via First Coast News
Tucker Carlson speaks at Turning Point Action event--screenshot via CSPAN
Rudy Giuliani--photo by Palácio do Planalto (CC BY 2.0) via Wikipedia

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Sources
ABC News
Melania Trump reveals pro-abortion rights stance in new memoir: Report

The Atlantic
North Carolina Was Set Up for Disaster

Citizen Times
Chimney Rock updates: Tourist village washed away. Here's what we know and what's next

PBS
Fact-checking the VP debate between Vance and Walz on abortion, immigration and Iran

Sun Sentinel
For new leadership in Fort Lauderdale: Barbra Stern | Endorsement

Photos
Chimney Rock After Hurricane Helene--via American Weather
Melania Trump--by Regine Mahaux CC BY 3.0 via Wikipedia
Liz Cheney--public doman via Wikipedia
VP Debate Vance and Walz--screenshot from CBS News Video posted to YouTube

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Sources:
Inside Climate
DeSantis

Florida Politics
Rick Scott

Scripps News
Bernie Moreno

Sun Sentinel
Gary Farmer
Eric Adams

Photos
Gary Farmer--by internet.user CC BY SA 4.0 (Wikipedia)
Bernie Moreno--by Gage Skidmore CC BY SA 4.0 (Wikipedia)
Hurricane Helene--from NOAA public domain (Wikipedia)
Eric Adams--by Oliver Dowden CC BY SA 4.0 (Wikipedia)

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Hillary and Tina cover Roe vs. Wade and the history of abortion in America.

Hillary’s Story
Throughout the early history of America, abortion was permitted. BUT when women began to seek more rights, more restriction on abortion gets enacted.

Tina’s Story
Roe vs. Wade made a woman’s right to choose a private issue and ensured safe access to abortion. BUT despite that republican law makers have fought to restrict abortion access in America.

Hillary's Sources
AJPH
Population Group Abortion Rates and Lifetime Incidence of Abortion: United States, 2008–2014--by Rachel K. Jones PhD, and Jenna Jerman MPH

The Atlantic
My Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Elizabeth Stone

Bustle
Getting An Abortion In The '60s Was Way Different Than It Is Today--by Amanda Chatel

The Daily Beast
Here’s What Life Was Like for American Women in America Before ‘Roe v. Wade’--by Geoffrey R. Stone

Fast Company
Which states will ban abortion if Roe v. Wade is overturned? These maps will tell you--by Christopher Zara

History
Roe v. Wade

The New York Times
Before Roe--by Illan Panich-Linsman and Lauren Kelley

Pew Research Center
About six-in-ten Americans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases--by Hannah Hartig

Planned Parenthood
I Had an Illegal Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Phyllis (guest blogger)

Slate
Caught in the Net--by Leslie J. Reagan

Vice
I Got an Illegal Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Carter Sherman

Wikipedia
Unsafe abortion

Photos
National Police Gazette Cover with Madame Restell--from Wikimedia via Timeline
Majority of Americans Approve of Legal Abortion Chart--via Pew Research Center
Gloria Allred and Norma McCorvey--by Greg Gibson/AFP via NBC News

Tina's Sources
Alabama
Author of Alabama abortion ban says state might add exceptions as it grapples with possible Roe ruling--by Sarah Whites-Koditschek
Rep. Terri Collins: Banker turned pro-life crusader--by Abbey Crain

BedBible
Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned--by BedBible

CNN
13 states have passed so-called 'trigger laws,' bans designed to go into effect if Roe v. Wade is overturned--by Elizabeth Wolfe

The Guardian
A Republican theme on abortions: 'It's OK for me, evil for thee'--by Arwa Mahdawi
Death sentence for abortion? The hypocrisy of US 'pro-lifers' is plain to see--by Jill Filipovic

Guttmacher Institute
For the First Time Ever, U.S. States Enacted More Than 100 Abortion Restrictions in a Single Year--by Elizabeth Nash

The Independent
'Death sentence for women': Alabama proposes law to make abortion punishable by up to 99 years in prison--by Maya Oppenheim

Ms. Magazine
Hana’s Story: Tricked and Traumatized by a Fake Abortion Clinic--by CARRIE N. BAKER
Warning Communities About Fake Clinics, One Sidewalk at a Time--by CARMIYA BASKIN

Naral
The Hypocrisy of the “Pro-Life” Movement

NBC News
The biggest health risks women would face if Roe v. Wade is overturned--by Aria Bendix and Dana Varinsky

The New Yorker
Of Course the Constitution Has Nothing to Say About Abortion

The New York Times
Here are key passages from the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion.--by Mary Cramer
Where Abortion Could Be Banned Without Roe v. Wade--by Allison McCann and Taylor Johnson

NPR-WLRN
Judging Samuel Alito on Abortion Rights--by Diane Geng

The Philadelphia Inquirer
Who is Justice Alito? The New Jersey-bred Supreme Court jurist may shape abortion rights--by Samantha Melamed

Planned Parenthood
Background on Title X Gag Rule
Timeline of Attacks on Abortion: 2009–2021

Politico
Inside Tim Murphy's reign of terror--by Rachel Bade, Jake Sherman, and John Bresnahan
Read Justice Alito's initial draft abortion opinion which would overturn Roe v. Wade

ProPublica
Draft Overturning Roe v. Wade Quotes Infamous Witch Trial Judge With Long-Discredited Ideas on Rape--by Ken Armstrong

Texas Tribune
This Republican Texas lawmaker halted a bill to outlaw abortion. He now faces security concerns, sheriff says.--by Elizabeth Byrne

US News
'Pro-Life' Congressman Who Urged Abortions for Ex-Wife and Mistress Is Running Again--by Steven Nelson

The Young Turks
He Supports the Death Penalty for Abortion; Big Companies Are Backing Him--by Andy Hirschfeld

Photos:
Judge Samuel Alito--by Steve Petteway via Public Domain
First Draft of Alito Abortion Opinion--via Politico
Map of Where Abortion Would be Protected--from Center for Reproductive Rights via ABC News

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Hillary’s Story
Clela Rorex served as the first female Boulder County Clerk beginning in 1975, BUT she made history as being the first clerk to ever issue a same sex marriage license in the US.

Tina’s Story
The Army of God is an underground American anti-abortion group BUT after claiming involvement in several anti-abortion acts of violence, they are now listed as a domestic terrorist group.

Hillary's Sources
Anchor:The Amber Live! Interviews
Clela Rorex, the first person to issue a gay marriage license in the USA in 1975

Boulder
Boulder’s LGBT history has many lessons to teach, including that backlash often follows progress--by Carol Taylor and Glenda Russell

Daily Camera
Man and horse ride into sunset as Boulder County updates photo collage--by Charlie Brennan

Esquire
How One Woman Married Gay Couples Forty Years Ago--by Jack Holmes

Wikipedia
Clela Rorex
Same-sex marriage in Colorado

Photos
Cleala Rorex--via Get Boulder
McCord and Zamora applying for marriage licsense--from Clela Rorex via Esquire
Marriage Liscenses issued by Rorex--from Boulder County Clerk's Office via Esquire
Ros Howard and his horse, Dolly--via Daily Camera

Tina's Sources
ABC 7 Chicago
Feds: Indiana man linked to "anti-abortion extremist organization" threatened clinic attacks--by Chuck Goudie and Ross Weidner

CBS News
Court Orders Robert Dear To Involuntarily Take Meds

Daily Kos
“Army of God” Kidnapper Released After Abducting Abortion Care Provider 24 Years Ago

Feminist Majority
Extremist “Army of God” Group Takes Credit for Atlanta Bombings, Promises to Attack Again

France 24
Suspect in Colorado clinic shooting said 'no more baby parts'

History
Doctor is killed by anti-abortion radical

Justice
OREGON WOMAN CHARGED IN ARSON, ACID AND NAPALM ATTACKS ON NINE ABORTION CLINICS
ROBERT WEILER SENTENCED TO 5 YEARS IN PRISON FOR ATTEMPTING TO BOMB AN ABORTION CLINIC IN GREENBELT

Ms. Magazine
The Anti-Abortion Movement Has a Long History of Terrorism. A Roe Repeal Will Make It Worse--by Kathy Spillar

National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism
Army of God

The New York Times
[3 are dead in Colorado Springs Shootout at Planned Parenthood Center]((https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting.html)--by Julie Turkewitz and Jack Healy

Abortion Doctor and Wife are Freed--by Nathaniel Sheppard, Jr.

Has Trump’s White House ‘resurrected’ Army of God anti-abortion extremists?--by Lara Whyte

Reveal
Abortion Providers Ask for Protection as They Prepare for Post-Roe Harassment and Violence--by Laura C. Morel

Sanganmon County
‘Army of God’ kidnappings (1982)

Southern Poverty Law Center
ANTI-ABORTION MOVEMENT MARCHES ON AFTER TWO DECADES OF ARSON, BOMBS AND MURDER--by Frederick Clarkson

UPI
Dr. Hector Zevallos, who last summer was held captive

Washington Post
FROM PRISON BACK TO P.G. PULPIT--by Sue Anne Pressley

Kidnaping Focuses Tensions and Fears On Abortion Clinic--By Bill Peterson

Wikipedia
Paul Jennings Hill
Shelley Shannon

Photos
Acts of Anti-Abortion Violence--from National Abortion Federation via Ms. Magazine

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Tina’s Story
Alderman Ben Lewis was a rising star in Chicago political circles. BUT when he’s found dead in his office, it begins a decades long mystery that remains unsolved today.

Hillary’s Story
Democratic congressman Henry Cuellar has voted alongside conservatives on issues like abortion. BUT an FBI raid and a progressive political challenger, Jessica Cisneros, could end his reign in Laredo, Texas.

Sources
Tina's Story
ABC 7
50 years later, alderman murder still open case

The Chicago Tribune
The cold-case murder of ‘Big Cat’ Ben Lewis, the 24th Ward’s first black alderman—by Ron Grossman
Lewis RD. ? It's a Name with a Past--by Robert Davis
Murder of city official unsolved after 56 years--by Ron Grossman via Press Reader

The New York Times
5,000 Attend Funeral Service For Slain Chicago Alderman—by Austin C. Wehrwein

ProPublica
The Murder Chicago Didn’t Want to Solve—by Mick Dumke

Retreats from Oblivian Blog
“HEADLINE: CITY MOURNS SLAIN POL, CHICAGO STYLE”--by Mark Rica, Chicago Daily News

Wikipedia
Benjamin F. Lewis

Photos
Alderman Ben Lewis--from Southern Illinosian via Fair Use
Motorcade for Lewis's Funeral--from Chicago Sun Times, Chicago History Museum via ProPublica
Officer Outside where Lewis was Found--from Chicago Sun Times, Chicago History Museum via ProPublica

Hillary's Story
CNN
Henry Cuellar is a political institution in South Texas. An FBI raid and a second challenge by progressive Jessica Cisneros could topple him--by Eric Bradner and Rachel Janfaza

Insider
Top House Democrat James Clyburn defends campaigning for Rep. Henry Cuellar, the lone anti-abortion lawmaker in his caucus--by Brent D. Griffiths

The Intercept
HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP JIM CLYBURN STUMPS FOR ANTI-ABORTION REP. HENRY CUELLAR--by Akela Lacy

NBC News
FBI raid on Rep. Henry Cuellar's Texas home, office said to be tied to Azerbaijan--by Michael Kosnar
Rep. Cuellar attacked on his anti-abortion stance by opponent Jessica Cisneros in Texas Democratic runoff--by Rebecca Shabad, Garrett Haake, and Haley Talbot

The New York Times
For South Texas Democrats, an Intraparty Test of Abortion Politics--by James Dobbins, Jennifer Medina, and Katie Glueck

Pew Research Center
8 key findings about Catholics and abortion--by Dalia Fahmy

Politico
After an FBI raid, ‘King of Laredo’ runs on his laurels--by Sarah Ferris
Cisneros calls out House Democratic leadership for supporting anti-abortion Cuellar--by Marissa Martinez

Rolling Stone
Nancy Pelosi Says Anti-Choice Democrats Are Fine as Long as … Their Votes Don’t Matter--by William Vaillancourt

San Antonio Express-News
Sex discrimination lawsuit surfaces in Texas Rep. Henry Cuellar's re-election race--by Benjamin Wermund

The Soapbox
House Democrats Are Backing Abortion Foe Henry Cuellar at the Worst Possible Moment--by Alex Shephard

The Texas Tribune
After FBI raid, U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar says investigation will prove “no wrongdoing on my part”--by Patrick Svitek

United States Congress
Henry Cuellar Biography

Photos
Henry Cuellar--by Eric Gay via Politico
Pelosi with Henry Cuellar--by Robin Jerstad via Texas Tribune
Jessica Cisneros--screenshot via NBC News
Catholics support legal abortion--graph via Pew Research Center

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Hillary’s Story
Throughout the early history of America, abortion was permitted. BUT when women began to seek more rights, more restriction on abortion gets enacted.

Tina’s Story
Roe vs. Wade made a woman’s right to choose a private issue and ensured safe access to abortion. BUT despite that republican law makers have fought to restrict abortion access in America.

Hillary's Sources
AJPH
Population Group Abortion Rates and Lifetime Incidence of Abortion: United States, 2008–2014--by Rachel K. Jones PhD, and Jenna Jerman MPH

The Atlantic
My Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Elizabeth Stone

Bustle
Getting An Abortion In The '60s Was Way Different Than It Is Today--by Amanda Chatel

The Daily Beast
Here’s What Life Was Like for American Women in America Before ‘Roe v. Wade’--by Geoffrey R. Stone

Fast Company
Which states will ban abortion if Roe v. Wade is overturned? These maps will tell you--by Christopher Zara

History
Roe v. Wade

The New York Times
Before Roe--by Illan Panich-Linsman and Lauren Kelley

Pew Research Center
About six-in-ten Americans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases--by Hannah Hartig

Planned Parenthood
I Had an Illegal Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Phyllis (guest blogger)

Slate
Caught in the Net--by Leslie J. Reagan

Vice
I Got an Illegal Abortion Before Roe v. Wade--by Carter Sherman

Wikipedia
Unsafe abortion

Photos
National Police Gazette Cover with Madame Restell--from Wikimedia via Timeline
Majority of Americans Approve of Legal Abortion Chart--via Pew Research Center
Gloria Allred and Norma McCorvey--by Greg Gibson/AFP via NBC News

Tina's Sources
Alabama
Author of Alabama abortion ban says state might add exceptions as it grapples with possible Roe ruling--by Sarah Whites-Koditschek
Rep. Terri Collins: Banker turned pro-life crusader--by Abbey Crain

BedBible
Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned--by BedBible

CNN
13 states have passed so-called 'trigger laws,' bans designed to go into effect if Roe v. Wade is overturned--by Elizabeth Wolfe

The Guardian
A Republican theme on abortions: 'It's OK for me, evil for thee'--by Arwa Mahdawi
Death sentence for abortion? The hypocrisy of US 'pro-lifers' is plain to see--by Jill Filipovic

Guttmacher Institute
For the First Time Ever, U.S. States Enacted More Than 100 Abortion Restrictions in a Single Year--by Elizabeth Nash

The Independent
'Death sentence for women': Alabama proposes law to make abortion punishable by up to 99 years in prison--by Maya Oppenheim

Ms. Magazine
Hana’s Story: Tricked and Traumatized by a Fake Abortion Clinic--by CARRIE N. BAKER
Warning Communities About Fake Clinics, One Sidewalk at a Time--by CARMIYA BASKIN

Naral
The Hypocrisy of the “Pro-Life” Movement

NBC News
The biggest health risks women would face if Roe v. Wade is overturned--by Aria Bendix and Dana Varinsky

The New Yorker
Of Course the Constitution Has Nothing to Say About Abortion

The New York Times
Here are key passages from the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion.--by Mary Cramer
Where Abortion Could Be Banned Without Roe v. Wade--by Allison McCann and Taylor Johnson

NPR-WLRN
Judging Samuel Alito on Abortion Rights--by Diane Geng

The Philadelphia Inquirer
Who is Justice Alito? The New Jersey-bred Supreme Court jurist may shape abortion rights--by Samantha Melamed

Planned Parenthood
Background on Title X Gag Rule
Timeline of Attacks on Abortion: 2009–2021

Politico
Inside Tim Murphy's reign of terror--by Rachel Bade, Jake Sherman, and John Bresnahan
Read Justice Alito's initial draft abortion opinion which would overturn Roe v. Wade

ProPublica
Draft Overturning Roe v. Wade Quotes Infamous Witch Trial Judge With Long-Discredited Ideas on Rape--by Ken Armstrong

Texas Tribune
This Republican Texas lawmaker halted a bill to outlaw abortion. He now faces security concerns, sheriff says.--by Elizabeth Byrne

US News
'Pro-Life' Congressman Who Urged Abortions for Ex-Wife and Mistress Is Running Again--by Steven Nelson

The Young Turks
He Supports the Death Penalty for Abortion; Big Companies Are Backing Him--by Andy Hirschfeld

Photos:
Judge Samuel Alito--by Steve Petteway via Public Domain
First Draft of Alito Abortion Opinion--via Politico
Map of Where Abortion Would be Protected--from Center for Reproductive Rights via ABC News

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