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  <title>Episode 153: That's Right, Daddy | Robert Livingston and Joel Greenberg</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary and Tina cover former US House Rep from Louisian Bob Livingston and former tax collector Joel Greenberg.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hillary’s Story&lt;br&gt;
As a US House Rep. Bob Livingston took an understated approach. BUT when he vies for the prominent Speaker of the House position, his undercover exploits come to light. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tina’s Story&lt;br&gt;
Joel Greenberg ran as a Trump-like figure who would stop corruption in Seminole County, FL. BUT when he misuses funds for a litany of illicit activities, he’s taxed with corruption and pays a hefty price. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sources&lt;br&gt;
Hillary's Story&lt;br&gt;
The Advocate&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/former-congressman-bob-livingston-emerges-as-figure-in-trumps-ukraine-saga/article_833ae162-fb1c-11e9-b96b-b37c9d59b634.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Former Congressman Bob Livingston emerges as figure in Trump's Ukraine saga&lt;/a&gt;--by Elizabeth Crisp&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;KellyWurx&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC1wK3XZJyU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Rep. Bob Livingston Shocking Resignation&lt;/a&gt;--by KellyWurx via YouTube&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NOLA.com&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.nola.com/news/politics/bob-livingston-former-louisiana-congressman-to-publish-political-memoir/article_971750d8-ca5f-55b0-9037-2d12ed8ee5cb.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bob Livingston, former Louisiana congressman, to publish political memoir&lt;/a&gt;--by Drew Broach&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Washington Post&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/flynt121998.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Larry Flynt, Investigative Pornographer&lt;/a&gt;--by Howard Kurtz&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/livingston121998.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Livingston Rejected GOP Advice&lt;/a&gt;--by Eric Pianin&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Livingston Quits as Speaker-Designate&lt;/a&gt;--by Eric Pianin&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Livingston" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bob Livingston&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Photos&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/aeb188b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x770+0+0/resize/1260x836!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F41%2F81%2Ff59027e845419132ed99c8a70af7%2F191030-bob-livingston-getty-773.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bob Livingston&lt;/a&gt;--photo by Dennis Cook/AP via Politico&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.nola.com/content/tncms/live/#6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bob Livingston and his wife, Bonnie&lt;/a&gt;--photo by Matt Ross/Times-Picayune archive via NOLA.com&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bob Livingston Resigning on the US House Floor&lt;/a&gt;--via Washington Post&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966559853/larry-flynt-porn-mogul-and-hustler-founder-dies-at-78" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Larry Flynt&lt;/a&gt;--by Mark Ralston/AFP via Getty Images&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tina's Story&lt;br&gt;
ABC News&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/gaetz-associate-sentenced-11-years-sources-probe-florida/story?id=94225875" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Matt Gaetz associate Joel Greenberg gets 11 years as probe into congressman stalls, sources say&lt;/a&gt;--by Will Steakin&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Click Orlando&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/12/01/bribery-fraud-sex-what-we-know-about-the-cases-joel-greenberg-is-involved-in/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bribery, fraud, sex: What we know about the cases Joel Greenberg is involved in&lt;/a&gt;--by Christie Zizo&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/14/joel-greenberg-admits-to-paying-teen-for-sex-with-him-other-men-in-plea-agreement/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg admits to paying teen for sex, introducing her to other men, documents show&lt;/a&gt;--by Merris Badcock&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/14/joel-greenbergs-estranged-wife-appears-in-matt-gaetz-rap-video/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg’s estranged wife appears in Matt Gaetz rap video&lt;/a&gt;--by Mike DeForest&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CNN&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/politics/joel-greenberg-sentencing/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg sentenced to 11 years after cooperating with federal probe into Matt Gaetz&lt;/a&gt;--by Marshall Cohen&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Government Technology&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.govtech.com/computing/seminole-county-fla-becomes-first-to-try-taking-payment-by-bitcoin--sort-of.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Seminole County, Fla., Becomes First to Try Taking Payment by Bitcoin — Sort of&lt;/a&gt;--by Ben Miller&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The New York Times&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-confidant-greenberg-sentence.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Former Gaetz Confidant Is Sentenced to 11 Years in Prison&lt;/a&gt;--by Eric Adelson and Michael S. Schmidt&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Orlando Sentinel&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/seminole-county/os-seminole-county-greenberg-officer-20171218-story.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Seminole Tax Collector Joel Greenberg didn't break law by pulling over speeding motorist, prosecutor says&lt;/a&gt;--by Martin Comas&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-op-lauren-ritchie-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-20191004-3k5tlmralnes5mxdj27l6oxciu-story.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg gives $3.5 million in consultant contracts, salaries to friends and associates&lt;/a&gt;--by Lauren Ritchie&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Politico&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/06/matt-gaetz-florida-joel-greenberg-479454" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The congressman and his wingman&lt;/a&gt;--by Marc Caputo&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;United States Attorney's Office&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/former-seminole-county-tax-collector-joel-micah-greenberg-pleads-guilty-multiple" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Micah Greenberg Pleads Guilty To Multiple Federal Offenses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT MIDDLEDISTRICT OF FLORIDA&lt;br&gt;
ORLANDO DIVISION&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/joel-greenberg-sex-trafficking-indictment/909d43f06dc4b17c/full.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;United States of America v. Joel Micah Greenberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WESH 2&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wesh.com/article/greenberg-to-pay-millions-restitution/38514769" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Former Seminole County tax collector Joel Greenberg to pay $1.8M in restitution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WFTV9&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/orange-county/joel-greenberg-disgraced-former-seminole-county-tax-collector-be-sentenced-thursday/NG4Y24UIPFE4HKRJDKBSAQGKRY/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg: Disgraced former Seminole County tax collector sentenced to 11 years&lt;/a&gt;--by Q McCray, James Tutten, and Sarah Wilson&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/seminole-county/joel-greenberg-former-tax-collector-pay-seminole-county-nearly-13m/MUMNSILMQFCCTJDUN34TV75EME/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg: Former tax collector to pay Seminole County nearly $1.3M&lt;/a&gt;--by Jeff Levkulich and Sarah Wilson&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Photos&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Joel_Greenberg.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Joel Greenberg&lt;/a&gt;--from Office of the Seminole County Tax Collector (Public Domain)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/11/30/ex-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-to-be-sentenced/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Sentencing of Greenberg&lt;/a&gt;--screenshot via Click Orlando&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2022/12/67a5a-16701592047126-1920.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Gaetz, Greenberg, and DeSantis&lt;/a&gt;--from @tominahonen/Twitter via SportsKeeda &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Hillary and Tina cover former US House Rep from Louisian Bob Livingston and former tax collector Joel Greenberg.</p>

<p>Hillary’s Story<br>
As a US House Rep. Bob Livingston took an understated approach. BUT when he vies for the prominent Speaker of the House position, his undercover exploits come to light. </p>

<p>Tina’s Story<br>
Joel Greenberg ran as a Trump-like figure who would stop corruption in Seminole County, FL. BUT when he misuses funds for a litany of illicit activities, he’s taxed with corruption and pays a hefty price. </p>

<p>Sources<br>
Hillary&#39;s Story<br>
The Advocate<br>
<a href="https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/former-congressman-bob-livingston-emerges-as-figure-in-trumps-ukraine-saga/article_833ae162-fb1c-11e9-b96b-b37c9d59b634.html" rel="nofollow">Former Congressman Bob Livingston emerges as figure in Trump&#39;s Ukraine saga</a>--by Elizabeth Crisp</p>

<p>KellyWurx<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC1wK3XZJyU" rel="nofollow">Rep. Bob Livingston Shocking Resignation</a>--by KellyWurx via YouTube</p>

<p>NOLA.com<br>
<a href="https://www.nola.com/news/politics/bob-livingston-former-louisiana-congressman-to-publish-political-memoir/article_971750d8-ca5f-55b0-9037-2d12ed8ee5cb.html" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston, former Louisiana congressman, to publish political memoir</a>--by Drew Broach</p>

<p>Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/flynt121998.htm" rel="nofollow">Larry Flynt, Investigative Pornographer</a>--by Howard Kurtz</p>

<p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/livingston121998.htm" rel="nofollow">Livingston Rejected GOP Advice</a>--by Eric Pianin<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" rel="nofollow">Livingston Quits as Speaker-Designate</a>--by Eric Pianin</p>

<p>Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Livingston" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston</a></p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/aeb188b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x770+0+0/resize/1260x836!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F41%2F81%2Ff59027e845419132ed99c8a70af7%2F191030-bob-livingston-getty-773.jpg" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston</a>--photo by Dennis Cook/AP via Politico<br>
<a href="https://www.nola.com/content/tncms/live/#6" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston and his wife, Bonnie</a>--photo by Matt Ross/Times-Picayune archive via NOLA.com<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston Resigning on the US House Floor</a>--via Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966559853/larry-flynt-porn-mogul-and-hustler-founder-dies-at-78" rel="nofollow">Larry Flynt</a>--by Mark Ralston/AFP via Getty Images</p>

<p>Tina&#39;s Story<br>
ABC News<br>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/gaetz-associate-sentenced-11-years-sources-probe-florida/story?id=94225875" rel="nofollow">Matt Gaetz associate Joel Greenberg gets 11 years as probe into congressman stalls, sources say</a>--by Will Steakin</p>

<p>Click Orlando<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/12/01/bribery-fraud-sex-what-we-know-about-the-cases-joel-greenberg-is-involved-in/" rel="nofollow">Bribery, fraud, sex: What we know about the cases Joel Greenberg is involved in</a>--by Christie Zizo<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/14/joel-greenberg-admits-to-paying-teen-for-sex-with-him-other-men-in-plea-agreement/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg admits to paying teen for sex, introducing her to other men, documents show</a>--by Merris Badcock<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/14/joel-greenbergs-estranged-wife-appears-in-matt-gaetz-rap-video/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg’s estranged wife appears in Matt Gaetz rap video</a>--by Mike DeForest</p>

<p>CNN<br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/politics/joel-greenberg-sentencing/index.html" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg sentenced to 11 years after cooperating with federal probe into Matt Gaetz</a>--by Marshall Cohen</p>

<p>Government Technology<br>
<a href="https://www.govtech.com/computing/seminole-county-fla-becomes-first-to-try-taking-payment-by-bitcoin--sort-of.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole County, Fla., Becomes First to Try Taking Payment by Bitcoin — Sort of</a>--by Ben Miller</p>

<p>The New York Times<br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-confidant-greenberg-sentence.html" rel="nofollow">Former Gaetz Confidant Is Sentenced to 11 Years in Prison</a>--by Eric Adelson and Michael S. Schmidt</p>

<p>Orlando Sentinel<br>
<a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/seminole-county/os-seminole-county-greenberg-officer-20171218-story.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole Tax Collector Joel Greenberg didn&#39;t break law by pulling over speeding motorist, prosecutor says</a>--by Martin Comas<br>
<a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-op-lauren-ritchie-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-20191004-3k5tlmralnes5mxdj27l6oxciu-story.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg gives $3.5 million in consultant contracts, salaries to friends and associates</a>--by Lauren Ritchie</p>

<p>Politico<br>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/06/matt-gaetz-florida-joel-greenberg-479454" rel="nofollow">The congressman and his wingman</a>--by Marc Caputo</p>

<p>United States Attorney&#39;s Office<br>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/former-seminole-county-tax-collector-joel-micah-greenberg-pleads-guilty-multiple" rel="nofollow">Former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Micah Greenberg Pleads Guilty To Multiple Federal Offenses</a></p>

<p>UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT MIDDLEDISTRICT OF FLORIDA<br>
ORLANDO DIVISION<br>
<a href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/joel-greenberg-sex-trafficking-indictment/909d43f06dc4b17c/full.pdf" rel="nofollow">United States of America v. Joel Micah Greenberg</a></p>

<p>WESH 2<br>
<a href="https://www.wesh.com/article/greenberg-to-pay-millions-restitution/38514769" rel="nofollow">Former Seminole County tax collector Joel Greenberg to pay $1.8M in restitution</a></p>

<p>WFTV9<br>
<a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/orange-county/joel-greenberg-disgraced-former-seminole-county-tax-collector-be-sentenced-thursday/NG4Y24UIPFE4HKRJDKBSAQGKRY/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg: Disgraced former Seminole County tax collector sentenced to 11 years</a>--by Q McCray, James Tutten, and Sarah Wilson<br>
<a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/seminole-county/joel-greenberg-former-tax-collector-pay-seminole-county-nearly-13m/MUMNSILMQFCCTJDUN34TV75EME/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg: Former tax collector to pay Seminole County nearly $1.3M</a>--by Jeff Levkulich and Sarah Wilson</p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Joel_Greenberg.png" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg</a>--from Office of the Seminole County Tax Collector (Public Domain)<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/11/30/ex-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-to-be-sentenced/" rel="nofollow">Sentencing of Greenberg</a>--screenshot via Click Orlando<br>
<a href="https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2022/12/67a5a-16701592047126-1920.jpg" rel="nofollow">Gaetz, Greenberg, and DeSantis</a>--from @tominahonen/Twitter via SportsKeeda</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/themuckpodcast">Support The Muck Podcast</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Hillary and Tina cover former US House Rep from Louisian Bob Livingston and former tax collector Joel Greenberg.</p>

<p>Hillary’s Story<br>
As a US House Rep. Bob Livingston took an understated approach. BUT when he vies for the prominent Speaker of the House position, his undercover exploits come to light. </p>

<p>Tina’s Story<br>
Joel Greenberg ran as a Trump-like figure who would stop corruption in Seminole County, FL. BUT when he misuses funds for a litany of illicit activities, he’s taxed with corruption and pays a hefty price. </p>

<p>Sources<br>
Hillary&#39;s Story<br>
The Advocate<br>
<a href="https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/former-congressman-bob-livingston-emerges-as-figure-in-trumps-ukraine-saga/article_833ae162-fb1c-11e9-b96b-b37c9d59b634.html" rel="nofollow">Former Congressman Bob Livingston emerges as figure in Trump&#39;s Ukraine saga</a>--by Elizabeth Crisp</p>

<p>KellyWurx<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC1wK3XZJyU" rel="nofollow">Rep. Bob Livingston Shocking Resignation</a>--by KellyWurx via YouTube</p>

<p>NOLA.com<br>
<a href="https://www.nola.com/news/politics/bob-livingston-former-louisiana-congressman-to-publish-political-memoir/article_971750d8-ca5f-55b0-9037-2d12ed8ee5cb.html" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston, former Louisiana congressman, to publish political memoir</a>--by Drew Broach</p>

<p>Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/flynt121998.htm" rel="nofollow">Larry Flynt, Investigative Pornographer</a>--by Howard Kurtz</p>

<p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/livingston121998.htm" rel="nofollow">Livingston Rejected GOP Advice</a>--by Eric Pianin<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" rel="nofollow">Livingston Quits as Speaker-Designate</a>--by Eric Pianin</p>

<p>Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Livingston" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston</a></p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/aeb188b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x770+0+0/resize/1260x836!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F41%2F81%2Ff59027e845419132ed99c8a70af7%2F191030-bob-livingston-getty-773.jpg" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston</a>--photo by Dennis Cook/AP via Politico<br>
<a href="https://www.nola.com/content/tncms/live/#6" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston and his wife, Bonnie</a>--photo by Matt Ross/Times-Picayune archive via NOLA.com<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-impeachment/livingston-quits-speaker-designate/" rel="nofollow">Bob Livingston Resigning on the US House Floor</a>--via Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966559853/larry-flynt-porn-mogul-and-hustler-founder-dies-at-78" rel="nofollow">Larry Flynt</a>--by Mark Ralston/AFP via Getty Images</p>

<p>Tina&#39;s Story<br>
ABC News<br>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/gaetz-associate-sentenced-11-years-sources-probe-florida/story?id=94225875" rel="nofollow">Matt Gaetz associate Joel Greenberg gets 11 years as probe into congressman stalls, sources say</a>--by Will Steakin</p>

<p>Click Orlando<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/12/01/bribery-fraud-sex-what-we-know-about-the-cases-joel-greenberg-is-involved-in/" rel="nofollow">Bribery, fraud, sex: What we know about the cases Joel Greenberg is involved in</a>--by Christie Zizo<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/14/joel-greenberg-admits-to-paying-teen-for-sex-with-him-other-men-in-plea-agreement/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg admits to paying teen for sex, introducing her to other men, documents show</a>--by Merris Badcock<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/14/joel-greenbergs-estranged-wife-appears-in-matt-gaetz-rap-video/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg’s estranged wife appears in Matt Gaetz rap video</a>--by Mike DeForest</p>

<p>CNN<br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/politics/joel-greenberg-sentencing/index.html" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg sentenced to 11 years after cooperating with federal probe into Matt Gaetz</a>--by Marshall Cohen</p>

<p>Government Technology<br>
<a href="https://www.govtech.com/computing/seminole-county-fla-becomes-first-to-try-taking-payment-by-bitcoin--sort-of.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole County, Fla., Becomes First to Try Taking Payment by Bitcoin — Sort of</a>--by Ben Miller</p>

<p>The New York Times<br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-confidant-greenberg-sentence.html" rel="nofollow">Former Gaetz Confidant Is Sentenced to 11 Years in Prison</a>--by Eric Adelson and Michael S. Schmidt</p>

<p>Orlando Sentinel<br>
<a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/seminole-county/os-seminole-county-greenberg-officer-20171218-story.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole Tax Collector Joel Greenberg didn&#39;t break law by pulling over speeding motorist, prosecutor says</a>--by Martin Comas<br>
<a href="https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-op-lauren-ritchie-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-20191004-3k5tlmralnes5mxdj27l6oxciu-story.html" rel="nofollow">Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg gives $3.5 million in consultant contracts, salaries to friends and associates</a>--by Lauren Ritchie</p>

<p>Politico<br>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/06/matt-gaetz-florida-joel-greenberg-479454" rel="nofollow">The congressman and his wingman</a>--by Marc Caputo</p>

<p>United States Attorney&#39;s Office<br>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/former-seminole-county-tax-collector-joel-micah-greenberg-pleads-guilty-multiple" rel="nofollow">Former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Micah Greenberg Pleads Guilty To Multiple Federal Offenses</a></p>

<p>UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT MIDDLEDISTRICT OF FLORIDA<br>
ORLANDO DIVISION<br>
<a href="https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/joel-greenberg-sex-trafficking-indictment/909d43f06dc4b17c/full.pdf" rel="nofollow">United States of America v. Joel Micah Greenberg</a></p>

<p>WESH 2<br>
<a href="https://www.wesh.com/article/greenberg-to-pay-millions-restitution/38514769" rel="nofollow">Former Seminole County tax collector Joel Greenberg to pay $1.8M in restitution</a></p>

<p>WFTV9<br>
<a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/orange-county/joel-greenberg-disgraced-former-seminole-county-tax-collector-be-sentenced-thursday/NG4Y24UIPFE4HKRJDKBSAQGKRY/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg: Disgraced former Seminole County tax collector sentenced to 11 years</a>--by Q McCray, James Tutten, and Sarah Wilson<br>
<a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/local/seminole-county/joel-greenberg-former-tax-collector-pay-seminole-county-nearly-13m/MUMNSILMQFCCTJDUN34TV75EME/" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg: Former tax collector to pay Seminole County nearly $1.3M</a>--by Jeff Levkulich and Sarah Wilson</p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Joel_Greenberg.png" rel="nofollow">Joel Greenberg</a>--from Office of the Seminole County Tax Collector (Public Domain)<br>
<a href="https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/11/30/ex-seminole-tax-collector-joel-greenberg-to-be-sentenced/" rel="nofollow">Sentencing of Greenberg</a>--screenshot via Click Orlando<br>
<a href="https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2022/12/67a5a-16701592047126-1920.jpg" rel="nofollow">Gaetz, Greenberg, and DeSantis</a>--from @tominahonen/Twitter via SportsKeeda</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/themuckpodcast">Support The Muck Podcast</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 146: Aliens or Bust | Orville Enoch Hodge and  the 1947 Flying Disc Craze</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Tina and Hillary cover Auditor of Public Accounts Oliver Enoch Hodge and the 1947 flying disc craze. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tina’s Story&lt;br&gt;
Orville Hodge served as Illinois Auditor of Public Accounts after winning election in 1952. But when he lined his pockets instead of balancing the books, it cost him big time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hillary’s Story&lt;br&gt;
When pilot Kenneth Arnold witnessed what he described as high speed flying discs. BUT little did he know that his sighting would spark a flying disc craze that still intrigues UFO enthusiasts today. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sources&lt;br&gt;
Tina's Story&lt;br&gt;
Chicagoist&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://chicagoist.com/2012/07/16/flashback_the_demise_of_orville_hod.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Chicagoist Flashback: The Demise Of Orville Hodge&lt;/a&gt;--by Samantha Abernathy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chicago Tribune&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-01-01-8701010079-story.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ORVILLE HODGE, AUDITOR WHO ROBBED STATE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Downfall Dictionary&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://downfalldictionary.blogspot.com/2013/10/orville-e-hodge-high-flying-lifestyle.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Orville E. Hodge: high flying lifestyle--by Dirk Langeveld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NPR Illinois Public Radio&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://will.illinois.edu/news/story/the-race-for-comptroller-treasurer-the-story-of-how-one-office-became-two" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Illinois Issues: Comptroller, Treasurer - The Story Of How One Office Became Two&lt;/a&gt;--by Sam Dunklau&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;State Journal Register&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2013/07/22/flashback-springfield-july-22-1956/41767559007/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flashback Springfield: July 22, 1956--by Rich Saal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Time&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,867023-1,00.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ILLINOIS: Hodge Dislodged&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Photos&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/412630f/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2192x1350+104+0/resize/880x542!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwuis%2Ffiles%2F201812%2Fhodge_ii_2400x1350.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Orville Enoch Hodge&lt;/a&gt;--via NPR Illinois Public Radio&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TOcy-oMs3k8/Umk0Th8CfcI/AAAAAAAAArs/QqbxQJHqMkw/s320/hodge.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Orville Hodge getting fingerprinted&lt;/a&gt;--by Chicagoist via Downfall Dictionary&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hillary's Story&lt;br&gt;
Sources&lt;br&gt;
Britannica&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Roswell-incident" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roswell incident&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CBS News&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roswell-ufo-incident-1947-headline-dispatch/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Recently uncovered 1947 headline from long-defunct newspaper offers "amazing glimpse" at UFO incident in Roswell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FBI Vault&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://vault.fbi.gov/Roswell%20UFO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roswell UFO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;History&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.history.com/news/roswell-ufo-aliens-what-happened" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;What Really Happened at Roswell?&lt;/a&gt;--by Adam Janos&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;National Catholic Register&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.ncregister.com/features/nuns-reveal-hidden-truth-about-roswell-ufo-crash" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nuns Reveal Hidden Truth About Roswell ‘UFO Crash’&lt;/a&gt;--by KV Turley&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NPR WLRN&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/05/1003267794/the-truth-is-still-out-there-in-ufo-capital-roswell-new-mexico" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Truth Is (Still) Out There In 'UFO Capital' Roswell, New Mexico&lt;/a&gt;--by Kirk Siegler and Liz Baker&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Smithsonian Magazine&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/in-1947-high-altitude-balloon-crash-landed-roswell-aliens-never-left-180963917/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;In 1947, A High-Altitude Balloon Crash Landed in Roswell. The Aliens Never Left&lt;/a&gt;--by Donovan Webster&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Washington Post&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/07/08/roswell-flying-saucer-ufo/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;75 years ago, Roswell 'flying saucer' report sparked UFO obsession--by Dave Kindy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;1947 flying disc craze&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roswell Incident&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wired&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/07/0708army-announces-roswell-new-mexico-ufo-sighting/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;July 8, 1947: Roswell Incident Launches UFO Controversy&lt;/a&gt;--by John C Abell&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Photos&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/eastoregonian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/12/5124e43b-12d4-5f4b-8874-28d99b347dd9/5bf3a26392a61.image.jpg?resize=424%2C500" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Pilot Kenneth Arnold&lt;/a&gt;--from Associated Press file photo via East Oregonian&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tulsa_Saucers_July12_1947.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flying Discs over Tulsa&lt;/a&gt;--by Enio Gilmore from Tulsa Daily World via Wikipedia&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://msnha.una.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Picture4-300x152-1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Front Page of Paper&lt;/a&gt;--from the July 5, 1947 Florence Times via Muscle Shoals&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1240/MTY4MDI4MDc2NzAwMDgzNTg0/roswell-gettyimages-868619780.webp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roswell Crash Article&lt;/a&gt;--from Corsicana Daily Sun via History &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Tina and Hillary cover Auditor of Public Accounts Oliver Enoch Hodge and the 1947 flying disc craze. </p>

<p>Tina’s Story<br>
Orville Hodge served as Illinois Auditor of Public Accounts after winning election in 1952. But when he lined his pockets instead of balancing the books, it cost him big time.</p>

<p>Hillary’s Story<br>
When pilot Kenneth Arnold witnessed what he described as high speed flying discs. BUT little did he know that his sighting would spark a flying disc craze that still intrigues UFO enthusiasts today. </p>

<p>Sources<br>
Tina&#39;s Story<br>
Chicagoist<br>
<a href="https://chicagoist.com/2012/07/16/flashback_the_demise_of_orville_hod.php" rel="nofollow">The Chicagoist Flashback: The Demise Of Orville Hodge</a>--by Samantha Abernathy</p>

<p>Chicago Tribune<br>
<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-01-01-8701010079-story.html" rel="nofollow">ORVILLE HODGE, AUDITOR WHO ROBBED STATE</a></p>

<p>Downfall Dictionary<br>
<a href="http://downfalldictionary.blogspot.com/2013/10/orville-e-hodge-high-flying-lifestyle.html" rel="nofollow">Orville E. Hodge: high flying lifestyle--by Dirk Langeveld</a></p>

<p>NPR Illinois Public Radio<br>
<a href="https://will.illinois.edu/news/story/the-race-for-comptroller-treasurer-the-story-of-how-one-office-became-two" rel="nofollow">Illinois Issues: Comptroller, Treasurer - The Story Of How One Office Became Two</a>--by Sam Dunklau</p>

<p>State Journal Register<br>
<a href="https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2013/07/22/flashback-springfield-july-22-1956/41767559007/" rel="nofollow">Flashback Springfield: July 22, 1956--by Rich Saal</a></p>

<p>Time<br>
<a href="https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,867023-1,00.html" rel="nofollow">ILLINOIS: Hodge Dislodged</a></p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/412630f/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2192x1350+104+0/resize/880x542!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwuis%2Ffiles%2F201812%2Fhodge_ii_2400x1350.png" rel="nofollow">Orville Enoch Hodge</a>--via NPR Illinois Public Radio<br>
<a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TOcy-oMs3k8/Umk0Th8CfcI/AAAAAAAAArs/QqbxQJHqMkw/s320/hodge.jpg" rel="nofollow">Orville Hodge getting fingerprinted</a>--by Chicagoist via Downfall Dictionary</p>

<p>Hillary&#39;s Story<br>
Sources<br>
Britannica<br>
<a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Roswell-incident" rel="nofollow">Roswell incident</a></p>

<p>CBS News<br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roswell-ufo-incident-1947-headline-dispatch/" rel="nofollow">Recently uncovered 1947 headline from long-defunct newspaper offers &quot;amazing glimpse&quot; at UFO incident in Roswell</a></p>

<p>FBI Vault<br>
<a href="https://vault.fbi.gov/Roswell%20UFO" rel="nofollow">Roswell UFO</a></p>

<p>History<br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/news/roswell-ufo-aliens-what-happened" rel="nofollow">What Really Happened at Roswell?</a>--by Adam Janos</p>

<p>National Catholic Register<br>
<a href="https://www.ncregister.com/features/nuns-reveal-hidden-truth-about-roswell-ufo-crash" rel="nofollow">Nuns Reveal Hidden Truth About Roswell ‘UFO Crash’</a>--by KV Turley</p>

<p>NPR WLRN<br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/05/1003267794/the-truth-is-still-out-there-in-ufo-capital-roswell-new-mexico" rel="nofollow">The Truth Is (Still) Out There In &#39;UFO Capital&#39; Roswell, New Mexico</a>--by Kirk Siegler and Liz Baker</p>

<p>Smithsonian Magazine<br>
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/in-1947-high-altitude-balloon-crash-landed-roswell-aliens-never-left-180963917/" rel="nofollow">In 1947, A High-Altitude Balloon Crash Landed in Roswell. The Aliens Never Left</a>--by Donovan Webster</p>

<p>The Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/07/08/roswell-flying-saucer-ufo/" rel="nofollow">75 years ago, Roswell &#39;flying saucer&#39; report sparked UFO obsession--by Dave Kindy</a></p>

<p>Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze" rel="nofollow">1947 flying disc craze</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting" rel="nofollow">Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident" rel="nofollow">Roswell Incident</a></p>

<p>Wired<br>
<a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/07/0708army-announces-roswell-new-mexico-ufo-sighting/" rel="nofollow">July 8, 1947: Roswell Incident Launches UFO Controversy</a>--by John C Abell</p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/eastoregonian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/12/5124e43b-12d4-5f4b-8874-28d99b347dd9/5bf3a26392a61.image.jpg?resize=424%2C500" rel="nofollow">Pilot Kenneth Arnold</a>--from Associated Press file photo via East Oregonian<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tulsa_Saucers_July12_1947.jpg" rel="nofollow">Flying Discs over Tulsa</a>--by Enio Gilmore from Tulsa Daily World via Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://msnha.una.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Picture4-300x152-1.jpg" rel="nofollow">Front Page of Paper</a>--from the July 5, 1947 Florence Times via Muscle Shoals<br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1240/MTY4MDI4MDc2NzAwMDgzNTg0/roswell-gettyimages-868619780.webp" rel="nofollow">Roswell Crash Article</a>--from Corsicana Daily Sun via History</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/themuckpodcast">Support The Muck Podcast</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Tina and Hillary cover Auditor of Public Accounts Oliver Enoch Hodge and the 1947 flying disc craze. </p>

<p>Tina’s Story<br>
Orville Hodge served as Illinois Auditor of Public Accounts after winning election in 1952. But when he lined his pockets instead of balancing the books, it cost him big time.</p>

<p>Hillary’s Story<br>
When pilot Kenneth Arnold witnessed what he described as high speed flying discs. BUT little did he know that his sighting would spark a flying disc craze that still intrigues UFO enthusiasts today. </p>

<p>Sources<br>
Tina&#39;s Story<br>
Chicagoist<br>
<a href="https://chicagoist.com/2012/07/16/flashback_the_demise_of_orville_hod.php" rel="nofollow">The Chicagoist Flashback: The Demise Of Orville Hodge</a>--by Samantha Abernathy</p>

<p>Chicago Tribune<br>
<a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-01-01-8701010079-story.html" rel="nofollow">ORVILLE HODGE, AUDITOR WHO ROBBED STATE</a></p>

<p>Downfall Dictionary<br>
<a href="http://downfalldictionary.blogspot.com/2013/10/orville-e-hodge-high-flying-lifestyle.html" rel="nofollow">Orville E. Hodge: high flying lifestyle--by Dirk Langeveld</a></p>

<p>NPR Illinois Public Radio<br>
<a href="https://will.illinois.edu/news/story/the-race-for-comptroller-treasurer-the-story-of-how-one-office-became-two" rel="nofollow">Illinois Issues: Comptroller, Treasurer - The Story Of How One Office Became Two</a>--by Sam Dunklau</p>

<p>State Journal Register<br>
<a href="https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2013/07/22/flashback-springfield-july-22-1956/41767559007/" rel="nofollow">Flashback Springfield: July 22, 1956--by Rich Saal</a></p>

<p>Time<br>
<a href="https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,867023-1,00.html" rel="nofollow">ILLINOIS: Hodge Dislodged</a></p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/412630f/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2192x1350+104+0/resize/880x542!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwuis%2Ffiles%2F201812%2Fhodge_ii_2400x1350.png" rel="nofollow">Orville Enoch Hodge</a>--via NPR Illinois Public Radio<br>
<a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TOcy-oMs3k8/Umk0Th8CfcI/AAAAAAAAArs/QqbxQJHqMkw/s320/hodge.jpg" rel="nofollow">Orville Hodge getting fingerprinted</a>--by Chicagoist via Downfall Dictionary</p>

<p>Hillary&#39;s Story<br>
Sources<br>
Britannica<br>
<a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Roswell-incident" rel="nofollow">Roswell incident</a></p>

<p>CBS News<br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roswell-ufo-incident-1947-headline-dispatch/" rel="nofollow">Recently uncovered 1947 headline from long-defunct newspaper offers &quot;amazing glimpse&quot; at UFO incident in Roswell</a></p>

<p>FBI Vault<br>
<a href="https://vault.fbi.gov/Roswell%20UFO" rel="nofollow">Roswell UFO</a></p>

<p>History<br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/news/roswell-ufo-aliens-what-happened" rel="nofollow">What Really Happened at Roswell?</a>--by Adam Janos</p>

<p>National Catholic Register<br>
<a href="https://www.ncregister.com/features/nuns-reveal-hidden-truth-about-roswell-ufo-crash" rel="nofollow">Nuns Reveal Hidden Truth About Roswell ‘UFO Crash’</a>--by KV Turley</p>

<p>NPR WLRN<br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/06/05/1003267794/the-truth-is-still-out-there-in-ufo-capital-roswell-new-mexico" rel="nofollow">The Truth Is (Still) Out There In &#39;UFO Capital&#39; Roswell, New Mexico</a>--by Kirk Siegler and Liz Baker</p>

<p>Smithsonian Magazine<br>
<a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/in-1947-high-altitude-balloon-crash-landed-roswell-aliens-never-left-180963917/" rel="nofollow">In 1947, A High-Altitude Balloon Crash Landed in Roswell. The Aliens Never Left</a>--by Donovan Webster</p>

<p>The Washington Post<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/07/08/roswell-flying-saucer-ufo/" rel="nofollow">75 years ago, Roswell &#39;flying saucer&#39; report sparked UFO obsession--by Dave Kindy</a></p>

<p>Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze" rel="nofollow">1947 flying disc craze</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting" rel="nofollow">Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident" rel="nofollow">Roswell Incident</a></p>

<p>Wired<br>
<a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/07/0708army-announces-roswell-new-mexico-ufo-sighting/" rel="nofollow">July 8, 1947: Roswell Incident Launches UFO Controversy</a>--by John C Abell</p>

<p>Photos<br>
<a href="https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/eastoregonian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/12/5124e43b-12d4-5f4b-8874-28d99b347dd9/5bf3a26392a61.image.jpg?resize=424%2C500" rel="nofollow">Pilot Kenneth Arnold</a>--from Associated Press file photo via East Oregonian<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tulsa_Saucers_July12_1947.jpg" rel="nofollow">Flying Discs over Tulsa</a>--by Enio Gilmore from Tulsa Daily World via Wikipedia<br>
<a href="https://msnha.una.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Picture4-300x152-1.jpg" rel="nofollow">Front Page of Paper</a>--from the July 5, 1947 Florence Times via Muscle Shoals<br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1240/MTY4MDI4MDc2NzAwMDgzNTg0/roswell-gettyimages-868619780.webp" rel="nofollow">Roswell Crash Article</a>--from Corsicana Daily Sun via History</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/themuckpodcast">Support The Muck Podcast</a></p>]]>
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